SIP trunk provider in LA

abp7
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2011-08-29

My small business is looking to leave AT&T analog and make the switch to SIP trunking. We have an older PBX (Fonality PBXtra Professional Edition V3.3) and were encouraged to look into SIP trunks by a sales rep at Fonality. In the past few days, I've done extensive research into the topic and have learned a lot, but I knew virtually nothing about phone systems or phone technology last Monday. I think a little hesitancy on my part is valid.

Our business: Fonality PBXtra Professional Edition V3.3 with analog and VoIP capability. Four phone lines with numbers that we must port over, five phones. DL speed 20.36 Mbps, UL 1.76 Mbps (reassured by several reps at different companies that this was more than adequate for our phone needs + internet). We must have month-to-month service and won't switch to hosted (boss wants to keep using PBX because he's comfortable with it). Approx. local minutes: 600, long distance 1500, international 160. Minutes per month about 2300.

We're looking at:
1. Nextiva - bigger company, more established, but relatively new to SIP trunking so my friend at Fonality discouraged that choice.
2. Broadvox - certified Fonality-compatible, seems like a medium sized-business so maybe could offer best of both worlds (reliability & customer service)
3. Starview - smaller and newer, recommended by my Fonality friend, very helpful and customer service could be best of the three

My concerns:
- difficulty of installation (there are a few guys in the office who are pretty technologically savvy, and my boss is competent enough to have handled the PBX setup and operation on his own, but we have no dedicated IT guy)
- customer service (again, need to make sure that we won't be left in the cold with our trunk, we'd really like help to be available right away when we need it)
- reliability (from reviews I've read, SIP service can be spotty, how common is this?)

Any advice or help you can offer is much, much appreciated! Thanks!

Amelia



SkykingOH
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2007-12-17
They key is how the SIP

They key is how the SIP service is delivered. SIP is as reliable as ISDN or any other type of signalling. It the link the SIP is delivered on fails then you are out of business.

With analog lines each lines has an individual circuit so the chances of all failing is very minimal.

I always suggest a few analog lines as backups and for 911 services.

What kind of data circuits are each of the providers proposing to transport the SIP calls?

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Scott

aka "Skyking"



abp7
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Member Since:
2011-08-29
We have TWC and it's only

We have TWC and it's only gone out once in the past two years, so it's pretty reliable. I think that this means, based on what you said and what I've learned, that if we'd had VoIP we would have had only one failing in the past two years. All the companies I spoke to offered DID for forwarding calls as failover. If we can avoid paying for analog services as backup, we'd like to do so. Do you think it's really worth keeping an analog line?

Data circuits? I'm not sure...



SkykingOH
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2007-12-17
I tend to deal with larger

I tend to deal with larger systems so I can't imagine running voice across an Internet connection. You can't do any meaningful QoS as none of the transport is under your control.

That being said, many companies are very happy running their VoIP over the Internet. As you said it has only been out once in 2 years, I do it at home with TWC. If you don't use 100% of your Internet routinely then you should be in reasonable shape.

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Scott

aka "Skyking"



abp7
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Member Since:
2011-08-29
You can't imagine running

You can't imagine running voice over Internet but you do it at home? I'm confused... Is it just because you're not used to dealing with such small systems for business phones?

Either way, based on my concerns of tech support, customer support, and reliability, do you have any recommendations for providers? Nextiva, Broadvox, or Starview, or another provider that I should be considering?

Thanks Scott, I really appreciate your input!



SkykingOH
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Member Since:
2007-12-17
I should have qualified it,

I should have qualified it, I can't imagine running VoIP over the Internet for a business.

Broadvox has a great network. My company uses Broadvox wholesale. We use Level 3 to connect to Broadvox but that's T1 and above so probably not economical for you. Broadvox has a PoP in LA. I would give them a try.

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Scott

aka "Skyking"



abp7
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Member Since:
2011-08-29
We do have T1, and I was

We do have T1, and I was told that with only five phones and five computers, two business monthly plans should be adequate and reliable. Would you not recommend this?



obeliks
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2010-03-14
Scott please stop confusing

Scott please stop confusing people. 99% of the people on this forum can not afford dedicated circuits, if they could they probably would not be looking into free pbx software and purchase whatever the sales rep is telling them to. You say
I tend to deal with larger systems
yet somehow you feel your "advice" is relevant to a guy (or a gal) who tries to save a few bucks on a couple of lines.

Regarding trunks in LA I would give voip.ms a try, they have a pop there - losangeles.voip.ms



abp7
Posts: 5
Member Since:
2011-08-29
Thanks for your help, both

Thanks for your help, both of you. I think we're gonna go with Starview because they're affiliated with consultants who can help us get our system set up for free.

How reliable would you say SIP trunking is in general? I know it depends mostly on the speed and quality of the internet. I was wrong, we don't have T1 but have TWC Turbo with an UL speed of 1.76. We are looking into getting a router to prioritize the voice over data since they will be shared on the same line. As long as we have adequate bandwidth, a router in case of heavy internet use, and a reliable connection with TWC, how consistent would you say our quality of service should be?

Btw, I'm a girl! Thanks for looking out, Obeliks.



obeliks
Posts: 878
Member Since:
2010-03-14
You can read this article

You can read this article about SIP trunking from 3 years ago:

http://www.tmcnet.com/channels/sip-trunking/articles/42815-many-f...


Today, Internet telephony via SIP continues to achieve outstanding quality, bringing into question the value of a leased connection. Additionally, SIP trunk providers requiring a leased line for access are inherently limited in service delivery regions by the availability of such circuits.



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