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installing x windows?

trickbox

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2006-06-02

Submitted by trickbox on Wed, 11/15/2006 - 1:05pm.

I've researched this a bit and realize it isn't recommended... I have an experimental setup and just realized I'm paying $15/month per box for electricity. I don't mean to sound too cheap. I just have too many specialized boxes running at the moment. I would like to install x windows (for occassional usage) on my AAH/TB machine.

I've tried these instructions with no luck...

>>If it doesn't, I think installing is quite easy, you can do 'yum -y groupinstall X' and 'yum -y groupinstall KDE' or 'yum -y groupinstall Gnome'.

And when all that's done, just to be sure, you can bring your system up to date with all the latest patches and security fixes with 'yum -y update'.

Thanks for the help!
Ryan

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cosmicwombat

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2006-05-31

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/02/2006 - 10:14am

Ryan, that would be a bad idea. Seriously, what do you expect to gain?

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andrew

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2006-05-30

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/02/2006 - 11:08am

I would not recommend installing X windows but trixbox is designed to be an open platform that you can do whatever you want with. That being said most commands have help built them. Type yum with no arguments and it will give you all the commands

yum grouplist will show you want groups you can install and

yum -y groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment" will install X windows

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mag

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2006-05-31

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/02/2006 - 11:40am

I've thought of doing this myself as well - Use this for remote administration of the box via ssh and x11 forwarding to open a browser running on TrixBox.

Maybe there is a better way, but I have security concerns about putting the Trixbox web interface directly on the internet.

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tommy13v

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2006-05-31

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/02/2006 - 11:56am

You can tunnel through your ssh connect to the webserver with Putty and use your local browser.

http://docs.cs.byu.edu/docs/sshtunnels/3.php#2

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mag

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2006-05-31

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/02/2006 - 9:27pm

Cool! Thanks for the tip - never thought about doing it this way before, it makes a lot more sense than loading x11.

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trickbox

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Member Since:
2006-06-02

Re: installing x windows?

Tue, 06/06/2006 - 3:26pm

Thanks everyone for the replies/information and good comments!

I have 4 apps I want to serve (egroupware, backuppc, zoneminder, trixbox) and I'm trying to get away from running 3 machines fulltime. My latest calculations are ~$50/month. I'm fairly new to linux and xwindows is simpler for setting things up. I was just thinking I could install x and use the high level tools to install the other apps. Once I had things working I was hoping I could get command line performance by not logging into the machine. If you have x installed but aren't logged in is there a big performance hit?

I realize all these server packages probably won't play well together. Zoneminder writes to the hd too much. Would a light apache load or midnight backups bother asterisk? Doesn't pluto bundle asterisk with a lot of other useful apps in this same fashion?

Looking at all the packages I believe I need to use CentOS because I haven't seen trixbox packaging for debian etc.

Anyway, I appreciate the comments.

Ryan

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kahealani

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2006-06-18

Re: installing x windows?

Sun, 06/18/2006 - 1:17pm

> I would not recommend installing X windows

Is this an issue of CPU load?
Is this an issue of non-Real-Time-ness of Linux scheduler?
For a single user system, is this really a problem?

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trickbox

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Member Since:
2006-06-02

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/23/2006 - 10:12am

I was curious about the same sorts of things. If I only used x to set things up and left the machine at the login prompt would it hurt performance? Anyway, I don't think anyone is watching this thread and we probably need to repost if we really want an answer.

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hoolahoous

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Member Since:
2006-06-02

Re: installing x windows?

Fri, 06/23/2006 - 1:47pm

i am a linux noob and I was trying to do same.. but it didn't work .. so finally I went to FC4 + asterisk + freepbx + MythTV + p2p + samba + lirc etc.. since CPU usage and memory were not an issue for me (P 4 1.6Ghz. 512 MB RAM) it worked out perfectly.. here are the steps i followed :

1) installed FC4 with KDE
2) installed asterisk 1.2.9 + freepbx (instructions slightly modifed from aussivoip site, where they have it for centos)
3) installed mythtv
4) installed all other relevent packages/drivers
5) recompiled zaptel (yeah.. that thing is so fragile, it craps out very often.. ) and since install was on FC4, i did NOT need to patch spinlock.h file.

Now with everything running at same time (including playing a DVD) and making a asterisk call cpu usage is barly over 30% which is cool..

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ballle_98

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Member Since:
2006-11-15

Re: installing x windows?

Wed, 11/15/2006 - 1:02pm

there is a small issue in that the trixbox repository provides a bad version of ghostscript that will prevent Xwindows from installing.

First remove ghostscript if it is installed.
# export http_proxy=http://:
@wwwgate0.mot.com:1080/
# yum remove ghostscript.i386

Now install X and Gnome (ignoring trixbox repository)
# export http_proxy=http://:
@wwwgate0.mot.com:1080/
# yum --disablerepo=trixbox groupinstall "X Window System" "GNOME Desktop Environment"

Fix the “/dev/mouse” link.
# echo KERNEL=\"mouse\*\", NAME=\"input/%k\", SYMLINK=\"mouse\" > /etc/udev/rules.d/10-mouse.rules

Test xwindows
# startx

Change /etc/inittab to start in X
Open the file in an editor (vi, nano, or emacs)
Replace this:
id:3:initdefault:
With this:
id:5:initdefault:

Reboot and the system should come up in X Windows

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dickson

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Member Since:
2006-06-02

Re: installing x windows?

Wed, 11/15/2006 - 1:05pm

Is your PBX serving a large number of users?

I don't think I would be alone here and tell you that you should leave your PBX well enough alone and let it do its job.

If its just a single use server, maybe serving a couple of people, well, maybe...but if its a production machine serving employees...probably best to leave well enough alone. Its all to easy to 'try something' and have the production system flat on its butt and your customers just getting 'busy' signals. That never helps the bottom line.

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Undrhil

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Member Since:
2006-06-25

OK, I have followed these

Wed, 03/21/2007 - 10:17pm

OK, I have followed these steps on my Trixbox machine. Something here has changed my root password. I cannot log back into root on my machine. Does anyone have any ideas what, in this list of things for installing X Windows, could change my root password and what it might have changed it to? The only thing I did different was I told it to install KDE instead of GNOME.

Any help?

EDIT: OK, it didn't replace my root password. I can log into webmin just fine with my root password. When I try to SSH to my TB machine using putty, it rejects *the exact same password which works in webmin*. Any ideas on this one?

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