Those of you who have made sales in doctor's offices or other health related offices which fall under Hippa compliancy. I have some possible upcoming opportunities for those type of settings. The typical office right now has 3 or 4 pots lines and a fax line with a small key system and approximately 7-10 extensions. I understand that bringing in SIP trunking would be out of compliance, but what about a VPN tunnel from a doctor's home to their office for a remote extension? Also, what about the voicemail to e-mail functionality? If any of you have experience and researched/followed hippa compliancy, I would like to hear about the experiences, advice, information you have as well as a basic setup that you implemented.
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This is a tricky issue...and I'll admit that my (extensive) experience in healthcare telecom has shown that most companies don't consider it as much as they should.
Paramount to secure communications is the ability to encrypt the RTP stream. People are often surprised when I can sit down and in five minutes be listening to VoIP phone calls anywhere in their network. I am not aware of any way to do this within Asterisk...but then again, I haven't looked into it either. (Asterisk is a pet project for me...I push it, but not to extremes)
A VPN tunnel should be OK...though a private network would give full compliance. I've established multiple networks for HIPPA aware companies that use VPN connections. In many cases, it's impractical to bring in a private connection.
With VM to email, if the customer uses encryption on their email (e.g. through Domino), it will be much safer...but again, that data traversal can be sniffed right out of the network. This is more of a network security issue than anything. You'll want to make sure you encrypt your mail authentication at the very least...but most companies opt to not go with VM to email due to the security implications involved. Also, you'll want to make sure your default VM access codes are forced to authenticate, as opposed to the open VM access that Asterisk provides out of the box.
Aside from that, if a company is very serious about HIPAA compliance, I would not advise going in with an Asterisk server. A Cisco CallManager would be much more suitable as it has inherent mechanisms for encryption at both the RTP level and the voicemail to email level.
Revco, I get a huge kick out of posts like this. Well written but completely wrong.
experience in healthcare telecom
Please quote the exact HIPPA requirement for encrypted voice? If this was accurate then every pharmacy/clinic and hospital with POTS lines is by your definition not HIPPA compliant.
This is not a technical issue this is a compliance issue. HIPPA does not specifically require any type of encryption. By your definition every heath care provider with unencrypted peering is out of compliance.
open VM access that Asterisk provides out of the box.
How is Asterisk VM "open" out of the box?
Not to sound lie a broken record but where is the HIPPA requirement to secure the internal network? How does Domino contribute to network security?
A Cisco CallManager would be much more suitable as it has inherent mechanisms for encryption at both the RTP level and the voicemail to email level.
I do not know of a single major health care provider network in the Great Lakes running encrypted RTP.
When you bounce back to the small docs offices they are security disasters.
I would be very interested in any requirements that have been written for Voip security from a major health care provider.
Scott
Scott,
I don't really have to defend whether HIPAA states encrypted RTP is a requirement...it's not...but at the forefront of healthcare telecom, these discussions ARE taking place. As I said in my first paragraph, it's not common for companies to look at it much...but the big ones (700+ extns) are taking a hard look at encrypted traffic these days. It helps when you bring in a security guy and show them just how vulnerable things are.
Whether or not YOU'VE seen it in your area is irrelevant. A high end VoIP company is going to look for unique angles they can provide to their customer base and sell it to them. Administrators & decision makers, who are looking at the security & reliability of their communications on a whole, are typically open to such discussions and some even go for it.
All I mean by open VM access is that the default VM entry code permits single stage authentication. It's preferred to use two stage in most cases and require the user to enter both their mailbox and password.
I will 100% agree that at the doc office and so on, compliance is a joke. Even in some large organizations it's a joke. But when a major provider is taking credit card transactions for medical services through an IVR with a major call center backend, believe me, encryption at every level is a major discussion.
I don't really have to defend whether HIPAA states encrypted RTP is a requirement.....it's not.
We are on the same page. HIPPA does not dictate technical requirements. The health care provider should dictate the technical requirements. These requirements would form the core of their HIPPA compliance on telecom and IS. Security business process is out of the scope of this discussion.
As I said in my first paragraph, it's not common for companies to look at it much...but the big ones (700+ extns) are taking a hard look at encrypted traffic
This is a very accurate statement, glad you cleared that up. I am in the Great Lakes region - Cleveland Clinic, Univeristy Health Care Systems, Metro Health and Summa are all in my back yard. Certainly Voip security is in the center of their radar scopes, however as I pointed out I have not seen any encrypted deployments. Voice is typically on overlay of the existing network and PRI gateways are used. This "island" mentality was the initial strategy for deployment. That strategy is now being revisited. I expect to see money start flowing toward these projects in the next 18 months.
Whether or not YOU'VE seen it in your area is irrelevant.
Your exactly right.
A high end VoIP company is going to look for unique angles they can provide to their customer base and sell it to them.
We like to think we are high end however developing that culture within our organization is a daily struggle.
Now that that is all cleared up!
Regards.....Scott
There are a number of legitimate points made in this discussion. Namely that HIPAA doesn't have specific technology guidelines. One step further, there is absolutely no such thing as a "HIPAA compliant" solution. A bunch of ignorant companies have marketed processes, products, and services as "HIPAA compliant." That's usually a clear signal to stay away.
That said, I disagree with revco's notion that Asterisk would be unsuitable for "covered provider" applications due to the lack of SRTP support. First of all, communications systems are explicitly excluded from the HIPAA Security rule (see CMS interpretation at http://tinyurl.com/6dkj7f). The Privacy rule effectively mandates "reasonable and appropriate administrative, technical and physical safeguards". I would argue that a reasonable VLAN, NAC, and network architecture structure wouldn't in any way violate the reasonable standards approach. I've never seen a legal opinion or a hospital compliance officer position that would preclude doing straight RTP.
As an idea of baseline comparison, many of the most widely used electronic medical records systems, such as Meditech, use antiquated and unencrypted protocols, such as straight telnet, to move actual PHI between clients and storage locations. From the perspective of relative risk, it seems more clearly problematic to be able to simply sniff direct PHI than voice communications that may or may not actually involve PHI.
That said, I agree that covered entities don't probably pay as much attention or understand the risks of VoIP as well as they should. I'd certainly advocate ensuring hospitals, physician practices, etc understand the risks of using unencrypted voice streams. That said, I don't think Asterisk should be excluded solely on the basis of not supporting SRTP.
Hopefully all of this will go away when the SIP over TCP and SRTP patches, both actively being developed, are finally mainlined.
Josh
Now that it is February 2010. Is the system hippa compliant, if I dont use the voicemail to email feature or if I write a program to encrypt it.
Is the use of sip trunk compliant?
Please advise
Joel,
Did you read this thread? What specific requirements are you trying to meet?

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