More fun with Door Phones.

phonebuff
Posts: 445
Member Since:
2007-02-15

Have a user dumping an older panasonic in favor of Asterisk.

Everything has been up and running solid for a while, but the Panasonic is still there. The reason is the door phone units (KX-T30865) on the front and rear door.

We have located a Web based relacement unit that operates the door lock hardware now we just need a good way to terminate the phone portion within Trixbox.

Does anyone know what the audio / ring connection is for this unit when attached to the (KX-TD160). Would like to do a BAT phone (FXS) where punching the button on the Door unit would indicate an off hook and ring an extension (Ring Group).

TIA for any assistance.



jmullinix
Posts: 837
Member Since:
2006-06-04
Jeff, This took a little

Jeff,

This took a little tinkering, but I fixed something else that was wrong with mine in the process. I do not know how to open the door, but I can make it auto answer when someone pushes the button.

Set up the FXS extension in FreePBX and change immediate to yes. Put this extension in a different context. Here is my test context.

[from-junk]
exten => s,1,answer()
exten => s,n,playback(touchtone1)
exten => s,n,hangup()

As soon as you pick up the phone, it starts playing the touchtone1 file. Don't laugh at my context name :)

Happy Channukah

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jades
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2006-11-26
same exact story here- we

same exact story here- we want to know though who is at the door before hitting 5 to open the door. let me ask you this:

can we get a grandstream and set that option- something like "dial this # when off hook"- set it to the ring group that rings all phones- and once we pick up, we can say "who is it", etc. and if we want to open, let us press 5?

thanks

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jades
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2006-11-26
Would anyone know if i can

Would anyone know if i can connect a greandstream ATA, and set the "Dial this telephone number when off hook" option to the ring group, and let us push "5" if we want to open the door?

As well, if nobody answers, or after we hang up the phone- will the person outside hear the busy signal? This is my main concern- about whether or not the Panasonic would hang up the call.

Thank you very much

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phonebuff
Posts: 445
Member Since:
2007-02-15
Not to the Panasonic..

It's two different mechanisms in the Door Phone unit, One is the "Phone" One is the relay, separate wiring and everything.

Still not even sure we can connect and FXO or FXS port to the Tip/Ring pair and complete a call.



jades
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Member Since:
2006-11-26
Oh. What I'm just planning

Oh. What I'm just planning on doing is just cutting off the pots lines from the panasonic box and plugging the grandstream's analog port into an existing phone jack. Then on the grandstream just set the option to dial a # when off hook.

I'm just worried about hanging up, or no answer.

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Joseph Ades
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(212) 937-4299



cvander
Posts: 637
Member Since:
2006-06-26
Your best bet is to go with

Your best bet is to go with a viking unit that detects dtmf and trips a relay if the code is correct. The unit you are looking for (assuming you have an analog phone with auto-dial already) is Viking Electronics C-200 unit.

http://www.vikingelectronics.com/products/view_product.php?pid=38...

This unit will give you the relay functionality you are looking for. These units can be had for $160 - $200 online, or about $150 if you have a good hook-up at ADI or the likes.

-Chris



ctj
Posts: 26
Member Since:
2007-07-02
Doing a similar thing

I'm doing a very similar thing in my job right now. We've got an old Panasonic KX-T61610 whose only function now is to run the door phone. (Everything else is using our Trixbox.)

The door phone is set to ring extension 11 on the Panasonic KSU (I don't know if that's the default or not, but that's how ours is programmed). I put one end of a one-pair telephone cord into the KSU's extension 11, and the other into the Trixbox's FXO port (on a TDM card).

In Trixbox, I've got an incoming route set for that specific Zaptel channel that goes into a ring group of my office phones. (The ring group has an announcement at the beginning, which I find helps to start the audio on the door phone.) If no one answers the call, it's terminated (with an appropriate announcement, of course).

If I could have found a SIP doorphone for a reasonable price, I would have ditched the entire Panasonic system entirely. But, since we already had the hardware, it was a simple process.



mrbiiggy
Posts: 1
Member Since:
2008-12-05
sorry to dig up an old

sorry to dig up an old thread.. but i can't find any info online anywhere else.

we are trying to get the panasonic KX-T30865 to work with a grandstream handytone.. i set the dial plan up to call all the phones and that part works.. but i can't figure out what the door phone does when you push the button outside.. any idea on how do implement this?

unfortunately i can't use and fxo cards because the machine doesn't have pci



Zion800
Posts: 76
Member Since:
2007-03-06
I've used the Pancode from

I've used the Pancode from ITS Telecom. It can be found here: http://www.its-tel.com/info.asp?id=48

It connects to Trixbox through SIP.



mbrevda
Posts: 209
Member Since:
2006-06-21
Yeah, thats one slick

Yeah, thats one slick device. Not cheap, and not free of design defects either, but it seems rather sturdy.

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Moshe Brevda, FreePBX/Schmooze Com Development Team



delta
Posts: 65
Member Since:
2006-06-01
I used analog versions

I used analog versions (Pantel and Pancode) few times with fxs cards and it works fine. Advantage of analog is that you can use old wiring, it does not need CAT5. And it's much cheaper then SIP version.



krazie
Posts: 2
Member Since:
2007-06-10
Guys, why wouldn't you just

Guys, why wouldn't you just use an ATA (PAP2/Sipura) and configure its dialplan to dial your pbx via sip? Then you can use your old analogue door phones and toss out those old legacy's. :D



Basildane
Posts: 213
Member Since:
2007-06-30
Re: ATA, I have one I could

Re: ATA, I have one I could experiment with. It hasn't been used in years. But, how would you get it to automatically connect when the doorbell is rung, automatically hang up when the door-call is ended, and it has to auto answer if I call the door from an extension.

Can all that be done? It didn't come with any documentation.



simsjrg
Posts: 118
Member Since:
2008-04-04
Curious

I'm curious to see if you can get that to work. I am trying to get around having my client upgrade their existing door phone. As of right now I am looking to do this with the TDM400 and a Viking C-2000B.

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johnf
Posts: 51
Member Since:
2008-02-16
More Doorphone Stuff

I used a Pantel with a TDM400. These units are not cheap but they can be programmed in various ways. In trixbox I made a dialplan injection where the doorphone goes to a ring group. with immediate=yes on the extension. The extension is a hotline to the doorphone ring group which rings as soon as the Call button is pressed.
This should work with any pot phone, but the Pantel can also be programmed to decode received digits from the far end and operate a built-in relay with contacts (and power if needed) for a doorlock.
I also modified dialparties.agi to give it a distinctive ring. Now it's as good as my 15-year-old Panasonic.



SkykingOH
Posts: 9541
Member Since:
2007-12-17
John - Great job! When I

John -

Great job!

When I rant and rave about users complaining that the GUI does not do this or that I always point them to the documentation.

With an open system there are no reasonable limits to what can be accomplished.

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Scott

aka "Skyking"



johnf
Posts: 51
Member Since:
2008-02-16
Thanks Scott I've learnt a

Thanks Scott

I've learnt a lot from this forum, so I'm happy to be able to contribute as well.

John



christancho
Posts: 1
Member Since:
2009-04-14
Panasonic door phone

I have a KX-T30865 door phone, connected to a FXS ATA LinkSys PAP2, with the dial plan S0<:123> , so the 123 extension rings, and I can talk, when the extension hangs, the door phone stays open, it does not hang up, am I missing something? is there any feature (among thousands) in the Linksys pap2 or Asterisk to remotely hang up.

best regards
Christancho



sktrds
Posts: 3
Member Since:
2006-06-06
KX-T30865 Door Phone

Did you manage to get the KX-T30865 to work ?? im stuck in the same situation, changed the dial plan on the PAP and can dial an extension but not able to hangup so its free to use again.



johnf
Posts: 51
Member Since:
2008-02-16
Panasonic doorphones

The Panasonic doorphone units have no smarts inside them, and are normally connected though the special Panasonic doorphone module in the pbx. You need to find something better.

John



mgoldburg
Posts: 21
Member Since:
2007-06-01
You can set up a custom

Disclaimer: I don't know anything about the KX-T30865, but ...

You can set up a custom context for the door phone and use the L(x) option in the Dial command, where x is the maximum duration of a call in milliseconds. The following in extensions_custom.conf will terminate any call from the doorphone after 20 seconds if you've specified my_custom_context as the context for the doorphone extension.

[my_custom_context]
exten => 123,1,Set(CALLERID(name)=Front Door)
exten => 123,2,Dial(Local/123@from-internal, 30, L(20000))
exten => 123,3,Hangup()

The 30 in the Dial command terminates the dialing attempt after 30 seconds if there's no answer.

I haven't tested this exact code, so you may have to fiddle with it. But we successfully use something similar here.



solstars
Posts: 57
Member Since:
2009-07-23
I have had the Pancode

I have had the Pancode phones lock up on me quite a bit. You may also want to take a look at the Cyberdata. It has code operated contact closure as well. So far, they have been stable in my installations.



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