Unable to use Power over Ethernet with a cisco 3500

vrillusions
Posts: 11
Member Since:
2007-07-16

I have a Cisco 3500 XL switch that supports power over ethernet. We have a couple cisco ip phones and they run just fine. I plug in a gxp-2000 and nothing. It doesn't show it's connected on the switch or anything. Has anyone else had luck getting the 3500 switch to work or would I need something some special PoE switch? My other thought is these phones have run for months off a power adapter. Is there something I need to set so the grandstream knows to check for power over ethernet instead of trying to rely on the power adapter?



reubanks
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2007-05-05
Would that be a 3524XL with Inline Power?

Older Cisco "Inline Power" switches like the WS-C3524-PWR-XL-EN were designed before the 802.3af "Power over Ethernet" standard was finalized. As such it will ONLY work with Cisco phones and access points. Inline Power and PoE are 2 different animals.

Grandstream (and all other PoE devices) are designed to work with PoE switches or injectors.

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Randy Eubanks FtOCC
United Tech Team



vrillusions
Posts: 11
Member Since:
2007-07-16
Yep, that's exactly the

Yep, that's exactly the model we're using. Had a feeling that may be the case since I had no idea till I saw the switch came with a couple cisco ip phones. Be more motivation to get cisco phones as the sound quality--especially the speakerphone--is much better than the grandstream. Thanks for the quick reply.



Simon_Sez
Posts: 1
Member Since:
2007-11-21
The issue is that switches

The issue is that switches talk via CDP with Cisco devices regarding inline power support. If a device can't talk CDP the switch doesn't enable inline power to protect his port from overload.

The only thing you can do is use inline power injectors. Even pre-AF Cisco Injectors work by changing the pin layout. While normally using a straight cable to connect a device to a switch port you just need to swap pin 4/5 with 7/8.

Switch ---Swap cable --- Cisco AF Injector --- Straight cable --- Grandstream

Swap Cable:
1-----1
2-----2
3-----3
4-----7
5-----8
6-----6
7-----4
8-----5



reubanks
Posts: 408
Member Since:
2007-05-05
If you use an injector...

then why make a crossover cable?

Just buy an 802.3af injector!

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Randy Eubanks FtOCC
United Tech Team



rafaelarvelo
Posts: 2
Member Since:
2007-12-28
Cisco WORKS with this phone

Configure your cisco ports as:

power inline delay shutdown 20 initial 300

I have prove, and it work!!!!!

Regards,
Rafael



rafaelarvelo
Posts: 2
Member Since:
2007-12-28
I mean

The 3550 at least....



aspacelot
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Member Since:
2009-06-01
inaccuracy

"Inline Power and PoE are 2 different animals."

not to be nit-picky but: Inline Power is PoE. I think what you meant to say is: Inline Power PoE and 802.3af(industry standard) PoE are two different animals.

Power over ethernet is just a generic term to describe supplying power through an ethernet cable. Inline is pre-IEEE standared Power over Ethernet and still qualifies as PoE, just a different flavor. This is similar to the way that 802.3at is/will be considered PoE.

Great post, I just thought I'd throw that out there.



iisg
Posts: 15
Member Since:
2008-12-03
vrillusions

Hi vrillusions,

You have a WS-C3524-PWR-XL-EN right? Can you please tell me the model number of the power adaptor for that switch?
I have been looking and can't find the part number for the adaptor providing the POE...

By the way we have Linksys/CISCO SPA942 phones and they are CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) compliant. They are priced right and work well in case you buy more phones...

Thanks!



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